tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN August 23, 2012 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
far, far away from tampa. follow all of us, tweet me @wolfblitzer. and an also kate bolduan. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. "outfront," mitt romney's big bet for people like me. imagine working at home with your home being in hawaii and your office in missouri. that is what company is doing. and colorado police may have been warned about the movie theater gunman weeks before the deadly rampage. new news tonight. let's go "outfront."
good evening, i'm. i'm erin burnett. mitt's big bet? me. well, i mean, not exactly me. but there is something about me that might to actually help mitt romney win the white house. those who watch the show know that we criticize obama and romney and are criticized for criticizing obama and romney. we are not going to take sides tonight. but i am catholic. catholics are the second largest religious group in the united states and almost two-thirds of the voters in the president election are catholic. no president has won the election without winning the vote of catholics since at least 1972. i'm talking about the contested race of 2000. but this is why it's complicated for the candidates. catholics, we can be won over. we are not a group that is is
going to go with that guy orrer that guy. in 2008, catholics chose barack obama. in 2004, the numbers were different. catholics choose george w. bush over john kerry 52% to 47%. this year, the catholic vote is up forrer grabs. mitt romney has put heart and soul into the catholics. exhibit "a," the highest ranking catholic in the united states will be front and center at the convention next week. we are talking about cardinal timothy dollan, who will deliver the den diction the night that mitt romney accents the gno nomination. here's the thing. his arch diocese is one of 40
suing the obama administration over the health care plans to cover contraception. now, after the obama administration made that announcement in january, cardinal dollan issued this response. >> never before has the federal government forced individuals and organizations to go in the marketplace and buy a product that violates your conscious. >> take this. dollan is a friend of mitt's running mate, paul ryan who is, of course, roman catholic. they are from ryan's home parish of milwaukee from 2002 to 2009. and remember mitt's big trip overseas, he made a big show of
stopping in catholic. >> here in poland, in 1979, a son of poland, pope john paul ii spoke words that would bring down an empire and bring freedom to millions of who lived in bondage. be not afraid. those words changed the world. >> but poleland is as catholic as saudi arabia is muslim. and he attacked obama for a war of religion. why? here are the numbers, 96% of the polish citizens are catholic. and here in the united states, catholics can make a difference in swing states. we actually took a look at this. we werer amazed how powerful catholics are. in paul ryan's state, catholics make up one-third of the vote.
obama won their support by a six-point margin. in florida, catholics, 28% of the vote. obama won by just one point. and then new hampshire, nearly 40% of the voters there were catholic. joining us, a guest from catholic network. james carville is with me. i everyone, i have no idea how much to the degree you are catholic. but we were all baptized catholic. i found it amazing how powerful catholics are as a group in the country. ray, you sat down exclusively with mitt romney. we have a first look what you asked him when you asked why he picked dollan. >> i am making it very clear that the interest of religious freedom is having i support whole heart lid and i will work
with him and others to ensure that each piece of legislation we consider is thought on its m pact religious freedom and tolerance. >> so, ray, what do you think? how does his help romdny win catholics? >> i think speaks, james might agree. we are all catholics here. kacatholics look for what is beg said and signs. and the fact that he is inviting cardin cardinal dolan conveys -- he was the person in con 23r57b9 with president obama throughout the process. clearly a message is being send here. however, i have to say, and take a little umbrage with the way this is depicted. cardinal ryan caught a bit of hell -- >> interesting word.
we are catholics here. >> pardon me? we are all catholic, we believe in hempb and hell. people said, how can you do this? you are arguing with him and now you are going break bread with him? he is giving the benediction and he has agreed to do so and he is inviting people at the al smith dinner. to say that he is endorsing one over the other, there is no doubt. they are are created a lot of friction within the catholic community. >> james carerville, what your reaction? >> thinky are thought to be 250 -- in the first place. and romney is going to examine
the legislation. i don't think that is a good idea. i don't think the cardinal wants to do that. but my daughter who is a senior at sacred heart of new orleans came up with the best idea. the democrats should get simone campbell to give the benedictio and if you asked who they admire, the bish hops or a nuns, e nones wouln in a walk. >> in an interview you did with mitt romney, he said he is going to work wh dolan to ensu that each piece of legislation is determined in terms of religious freedom. a lot of people say they want the government to stay out of rngs freedoms. but in sounds like it's going in a different direction. >> my problem was with the mandate. and up to recently there was no
problem. the obama administration and kathleen sib bill list tried to redefine what an organization is. and they said, it's only those who serve catholics and employing catholics. this is a narrow definition. mother teresa couldn't qualify it. and simone campbell is a leader of a group called network. she is critiqued by beinged a odds. she is -- inviting a sister like her might not resonate in the same way that cardinal dolan is. she is missing the habit, james. which we look for when we look at nuns. >> a lot of catholics don't agree with the social aspects of the religion when it comes to women. james, let me ask you this to. you wanted to make a link. the other voting bloc that could turn the election is hispanics mmpb 70% of the hispanics in the
country are catholics. do you think that this could help with that crucial group to get the numbers he needs to win the white house. >> in a word, no. and catholics are -- you know, will pick our cues and goo to vote. people who do go to church tend to be more republican. but i do think we should have the nuns at our convention. i think the nuns are viewed favorable in the united states and they are a part of our church. but i think any daughters idea is very good. and i wouldn't be surprised to see us do that. >> maybe the nuns and priested can get married to -- that is another conversation. i see james talking. his mike is off. he looks funny now. still to come, savoring taxpayer money by having
employees work from home next. plus, tropical storm isaac is moving close to florida. will it disrupt the convention? and new nipgs tonight about james holmes. accused of killing 12 in a colorado movie theater. police were told about him, something krushl, six weeks before the rampage. max. this is the plan that revolves around you. introducing share everything. unlimited talk. unlimited text. and a single pool of sharable data that powers up to 10 devices. the first plan of it's kind. share everything. only from verizon. add a smartphone for just $40 monthly access.
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our second storyout front. the government's general services administration under fire earlier this year for a lavish conference in las vegas. tonight, under scrutiny again. congress is looking into their virtual employees, people mo work at home for a cost saving measure. one area of concern is how much taxpayers are spending on employee travel costs. a cnn investigation found that one of the employees is signed to theffice te works in haii. yes, hawaii 367 here is drew griffin out front. >>eporter: if youd coulork any where in the world, why wouldn't you work from hawaii? soft breezes, beautiful beaches and the warm spirit of aloha that people in places like
kansas city can only dream of. but for one federal employee, it's a dream come true. we will call him mr. x because he hasn't done anything wrong. he is part of a system that has come under fire. the general server i services s employee. he was a perfect candidate. for $86,000 a year, he was on the payroll, not in an office in honolulu but from his home as a virtual employee of the kansas city office. it's showing how working from home can make employees happy, save on office space. and for this employee, what
better example than to hire a guy in hawaii. >> that was one of the directors showing that she wanted to embrace telework. >> you are kidding me. >> i am not kidding you. >> reporter: we are hiring someone in hawaii to work in kansas city. >> that is correct. >> reporter: and confirmed by the person in charge of all other teleworkers here.al admin that mr. x with was perfect for the job, travel costs included. >> when factors all those in, it was determined he was the best candidate even in light of the cost that would be incurred. i don't think he comes to kansas city very often. and again that is a reflection of the technology we have available to us. >> reporter: we found that he
may not come to kansas city a lot, but he seems to travel a lot. and it is expensive. in the last year, he has flown back to the mainland nine times. four trips to st. louis, four to washington, including a side trip to cincinnati and there was a trip to san diego. cost to taxpayers, $24,211. too much, according to the new administration new running the gsa, which told us we are not going to defend this time of travel. but what cnn and congressional investigators want to know is how many more mr. xs are out there. for weeks, cnn is asking for the numbers. we are still waiting. so is congress. what cnn learned, the virtual employees would be 200 and 300 people with the travel costs in
the several millions of dollars, for the convenience of gsa workers who want to work from home. do you feel they should hire a guy who works out of his home in hawaii? no. >> no, i totally understand. and we have to to make sure we open ourselves up to all available people in the country and have a clear business case. if we have someone who is working in nebraska but reporting to boston, it has to be a clear explanation for what value they are providing. and you got give me the business case. >> and we found out something else. if that hawaii teleworker ever do move to kansas city, there are newly remod ls and colorerfully painted offices waited for him. the gsa spent money fixing up the space and now the offices
are empty. >> and shocking a damming report. drew, you said they are still working from home. the telework rers working for the gsa. what happens to them? do they actually go to work? >> as far as we know, that is a status quo. they are teleworking. will is accounting who is and who is intera good candidate. but it is travel that is severely cut. the administrator ordered a top to bottom review, including the travel and the conferences, how it got started with the revelations, how it got started, the conference that was staged in las vegas. >> the gsa is supposed to be policing how much everybody else is spending on ridiculous things. you talked about trying to find how many people are doing this telecommuting. why is it taking so long? gsa, give us the number.
>> we have been getting stone walled. we have been waiting for this for months. we fileded the request back in june, repeatedly told it's going to be any day now. and now they are going to have a spread sheet. and to be frank, maybe the answer is, the gs warriors doesn't know, they don't know how many people are working ho fr ho. theyrenotling on our request but on investigators, having the same thing as cnn, how many are there? how much are they costing. >> that say amazing, drew griffin, that story and shocking and damming conclusions. up next, the path and strength of isaac, moving closer to the u.s. coast, but where? and tonight, molly ringwald gets personal.
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"outfront." we are breaking news tonight on tropical storm isaac, makingist way through the caribbean and making its way to florida. chad meyers is following the storm. is it going to hit hurricane strength? where do you think it's going to hit? >> i do believe it will hit hurricane strength and then the hurricane strength will go down. it will leave land, bark to cuba and go in the gulf of mexico and it could be a hurricane again, maybe bigger than a 1. here is a storm again, the center right here. the wind there is going to go up the next hour. we are hurricane hunter aircraft in there. they are finding gusts higher than that. isaac is forecast to move over haiti. over 400,000 people living in tents. and over cuba when it goes over land, it loses power, when it
goes over water, it gains power. it could go to the the right or the left. you are bu right now, the models that we use they are tightly packed and they all agree. that mean tlas probably right. erin? >> interesting for what it means for tampa. thanks, chad. still "outfront," what police were actually told about james holmes six weeks before he shot and killed people in a colorado movie theater. and romney's taxes. more than 1,000 pages of tax dodging schemes. bus that ade up? this man is about to be the millionth customer.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on report from the front line. first, the agency is working on a reported threat against congressman todd akin. she delined to say more. akin is under fire for making controversial comments about rain. today, mitt romney rolled
out his energy plan. >> i will set a national goal of america and north america, north american energy independence by 2020. north american energy independence by 2020. >> the problem is, this isn't really outfront. without his plan, this country is already on a path to be energy independent by 2020. raymond james is one of the companies that forecast this. they stay sai it's a historic deal and it is pretty amazing. the reason it's going to happen without a romney plan is natural gas. we are going to be able to meet our own needs and export it and it's cheap. citigroup says the u.s. could add 6 million jobs thanks to this by, guess what? 2020. it's been one year since the
earthquake shook the east coast and it caused a crack at the top of the national monument. it's been closed since. the question, could it happen again? well, i don't like betting on these things. but according to a study released today by the national park service, the found a chance of another earthquake inflicts damage like this is extremely unlikely. the problem there is still a chance. a publisher will release a book by a navy s.e.a.l. detailing the raid that killed osama bin laden. it will be printed under another name. but the u.s. special op rations command has not approved the book. interesting. it's been 385 days since the
u.s. lost its top up credit rating. the dow was down 115 points but it was the first triple-digit loss of the month. it's been a good month. now the story out front. missed opportunities in the colorado shooting. it's a tragedy this information we have tonight. we new details that the university of colorado had banned james holmes from campus for making threats six weeks before he allegedly killed 12 in a movie theater in aurora, colorado. they gave the threats to police and took away his key cards that gave him access to campus buildings. this is shocking. the evidence on a couple levels. evidence that the police were told about the threats that james holmes had made on the campus of colorado six weeks before the shooting. bus that mean that the police could be liable?
>> it's hard to get a liability suit against the police. of course, are we talking about the university police or the actual colorado police, maybe the state police? in either case, you have to be -- people would be shocked to hear this. you can't sue the shocks for not doing their job, believe it or not. they are immunity for that. the reason for that, everybody who had a crime committed against them would sue the police. we would be out of business. you can suehem if they establish a special relationship e with you. if they say, they are are going to supply you with 24-hour protection and they don't show up on the job, you can sue. but we have to look the holmes. what are the specific threats. was a special relationship created. >> so that is important. but what about this? the university of colorado
obviously took the threat seriously enough to deny him access to the campus. took away his key cards. bus that mean the university could be facing liability? >> it's very serious. however w the university, you get a different doctrine and it's the doctrine of foreseeability and the duty doctri doctrine. you have to show that the university owes a duty to the general public. and to do that is very, very difficult. we have the same problem. >> they protected themselves -- >> the students. they owe a duty to them. but every kidded with a drug problem or a problem with violence, can you sue the university when he does something when he leaves collegesocollege so ? it's hard to win those cases. >> what about the fact that holmes met with three men ta tall help experts before the shooting. we know that one of them, a male doctor, raised warning.
there was a question how much she raised and how far she pushed it. does it add to the problems of the university as well? we now have three. you don't have usually three people looking at you for mental health. >> no, you don't. you are on to something here. but clollectively, it mate have give withen them information to take action by going to the police. psychiatrists, social workers they are are a legal obligation to the public. >> the liability in this would be an incredible amount of money. >> a staggering amount of money if they can prove it. but it's an uphill battle against all of the potential targets in the civil cases. we are not talking about the
criminal cases here. the civil cases. the criminal case is still very strong. also,there is a website kauded gawker and today they released controversial bain documents. and the story took off on twitter. tweeting, gawker just set out a wmd. we looked through the documents and there is some more asht funds in the cayman islands and some of the advisers -- and as for a dom shell and his personal tax policy, how much he paid? no. gawker's worthless bain files.
look, this is a gsh i dess, david, this is part of the problem here. is this something that mitt romney is going to deal with until the elections? because he hasn't put out his taxes. >> president obama is not going to be running on a record. because the record is pretty depressing. so he has to do the thing that embattling incumbents do, and that is make the challenger unacceptable. so he has to find things in romney's life and link thome a story about how that romney is unacceptable. and the taxes are going to be a thing they go to again and again to change the subject away from the record of the past four years. >> what is the risk that mitt romney is defined by things that he won't reveal? and something came out a few moments ago i want to share. the salt lake tribune is
reporting that mitt roamny says to parade magazine, part of the money that he doesn't want to give out his tax returns, the money that he e gives to the mormon church. >> why is he talking act it now? there are two points here. the romney people take the position, there is a big deal if there is something wrong in the report. that is not the case. the american people want to see the documents and if there is something wrong in there, they should talk about it. and romney has got to begin to own his own narrative. and right now, he seems to be running from his history. and that is something that does concern people. if mitt romney doesn't feel good about his history, he has to feel better about it. >> when you actually did the numbers, which we did in the
beginning. if mitt romney said, say what you want about my taxes, i paid 14, 15% to the u.s. government but i paid the same to charity, you add that together, i'm paying more of my income than barack obama is. >> you are talking about you. and when he says the american people want to know this or that thing, i know a substantial amount of american people, but i don't think that any of us know a tenth of 1% of them. and part of politics is talking about what the public wants. the obama campaign has to have a meter and say, what can we do today to get mitt romney to talk about the things he wants to talk about? and they have been successful and had help from the romney campaign. but the romney campaign wants to talk about what it wants to talk about, the state of the economy and hopes for a better
performance over the next four years. >> everybody gets caught in the details about what is this tax and what is that document. people do start to get a feeling that he is hiding something and he is not comfortable. and one thing we know about george bush, he could laugh at himself, and he was comfortable with his faults. and american people do like to have a lead horse is transparent and comfortable. >> that feeling that something is hidden is artfully constructive. that is manage that is built. >> well that is the campaign's job. and we should defend against that and be proactive against it. it's not brand new. democrats have been running the same attack on mitt romney since 1994. it's a shame they can't figure out how to defend it. >> david, one final thing. i want to keep it private because it's me and my god. but in is the same week that he is allowing reporters to come to
church with him. he is talking more about religion. says he wants to talk about religion. is that a contradiction? >> he has decided there are things in the tax return that he could rather people not see and he doesn't want the obama opposition research it. it's driven by a reality, he knows the obama campaign wants to talk about him. you didn't hear a lot of talk about walter mondale's tax returns in 1984. bill clinton was uninterested in bob dole's history in 1996. when the challenger has a strong message, there is a history. >> up next, molly ringwald gets personal. check out this picture. is that jake? that is her husband. we are going to tell you about that story, what happened there.
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contributions. those stories and the ridiculist at the top of the hour. >> all right, thank you, anderson. the story out front. molly ringwald, so much more than just pretty in pink. she is famous for her sweet heart roles in movies like "16 candles," "the breakfast club." "pretty in pink." she is acting on broadway and now has written a book called "when it happens to you." just before the show, i sat down with molly and asked what it's like to transition from movie star to novelist. >> i think in terms of my fiction, i really had to get to a place where my own writing met the standards of writing i
admire and it took a lot of years for me to learn how to do it. and i feel like i'm still learning. i feel like i'm still a work in progress, but finally, i happ happened upon this idea for the book and i thought, i could do something with this. the idea of betrayal and how we detray ourselves. it seemed like something that was so relatable. >> what was it based on? was it personal experience? what made you able to write about it? >> you know, i bring the same abilities to my writing in the ways i bring do my acting, imagining character. when you get inside the characters, you feel everything. >> i have to ask you this. i told people you were coming on the show and they said, oh, my gosh, molly ringwald and they go through their favorite movie. i have to say there were a couple young men in your movies,
jake in "16 candles." let me play the scene one more, for the billionth time, here it is. >> make a wish. >> it already came true. ♪ >> i still get goose bumps. >> ahh. >> here is what i wanted to know. they said, they loved the scene so much, everyone wants it to be real life or imagined. did you guys ever have a real life romance? >> me and michael schoeffling? >> yeah. >> no, no, but you know what? no, he was older than me. i was 15 when i was shooting "16 candles" and he was in his 20s.
but i ended up, funny enough, my husband happens to resemble him a lot. so in a way, i kind of got him. which i never realized until years later, and someone said, that guy you married, he looks like jake ryan. >> you are giving me my happy ending. you are giving it to me. >> i'm glad to have been able to do that for you, erin. >> now, we talk about life. and i know you don't talk about reinvention. but someone like you is able to do so many things. do you one thing and another thing. you go with your heart and talent. let me firm something. you are voting for obama, right? >> yeah, i think is really smart. he was handled a difficult situation. he hasn't done everything perfectly but i'm in support of him. and the opposition to me is just absolutely terrifying as a woman. and as a woman who has two
daughters. it's just not possible for me to consider that. >> why is that? because of the talk about abortion? the contraception? >> yeah, it's that. it's telling woman what they have to do with their bodies. it's just -- it's just something i didn't believe and i believe that president obama will protect women's rights much better than the other guys. >> you mentioned your daughters and i know you have three kids. you look at your own life and you were a major movie star as a teenager. would you recommend they follow your path or no? >> not while they are still kids. i would prefer that my children go to school and get an education and go to college. if they want to pursue it later, i would do whatever i can to help them. but i feel like childhood is so fleeting and the show business is just really hard. and i feel like there is a time
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copies in one week. the most for a song sung by a women. this is the strange thing we learned today. stars want to push out songs quickly. there is a lyrics video on youtube, it doesn't have video. it doesn't have video. 64% of teens say they listen to music on youtube. it's crucial for artists like taylor swift. i'm sure you are shocked to hear this is the first number one she's had. she's been around years. she is 22. the charts can be fickle. the number tonight, 25. that is the number of years it took aerosmith to hit number one. they released their first debut ti